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# Podcast: George Orwell warned us
- URL: https://utahpolitics.news/podcasts/podcast-george-orwell-warned-us/
- Published: 2025-03-10T16:42:49.000Z
- Updated: 2025-12-05T23:40:17.000Z
- Author: Bryan Schott
- Tags: Podcasts

In this week's episode of [Special Session](https://specialsession.podbean.com/?ref=utahpolitics.news):

A conversation with Sen. Daniel Thatcher. He announced Friday that he was l[eaving the Republican Party](https://utahpolitics.news/sen-daniel-thatcher-abandons-gop-the-public-is-being-treated-with-contempt-2/) to join the Utah Forward Party. Thatcher says the Republican majority is becoming increasingly disconnected from the public. We’ll discuss his decision and how he will approach his job as a caucus of one.

In the news roundup:

- The 2025 Utah Legislature is over.
- Legislative leaders aren't going to let a minor thing like a bill dying in committee stop them.
- Legislators pick a fight with the state auditor over office space...and lose.
- Phil Lyman wants to run the Utah Republican Party.

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